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Snowjob – Pereira Returns to Tuck Rule Vomit

January 11th, 2011


“As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly”


That was my intitial reaction to the news that Mike Pereira, former NFL head of officials, and the NFL patsy sent forward to explain the Walt Coleman tuck rule reversal in the 2002 AFC Championship game between the Raiders and Patriots, had a sudden change of heart and now thinks the tuck rule is bad for football.

The then NFL sanctioned spin doctor Pereira, couldn’t retreat fast enough from his assinine lectures about how the NFL rule book said something that it didn’t say at all. Attempting to rewrite the NFL rule book, Pereira at the time of the tragically bad call, explained to broken hearted Raiders fans that ”once you pump and bring the ball back to the set position, you can’t fumble. Period.”  The only problem with Pereira’s tuck rule explanation: it’s not what the rule book said…

The tuck rule is defined in Rule 3, Section 21, Article 2, Note 2 of the NFL Official Rules:


“When a player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his hand starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.”

You can watch and listen to Mike Pereira try and explain the shitty call, and listen as Pereira admits the tuck rule as he has previously explained it goes directly against the intent of the rule itself at the 4:00 minute mark of the video below. Pereira’s tuck rule comments start at the 3:26 mark. What Pereira delicately avoids is that tisky bit at the end of rule 3, section 21, article 2, note 2, of the official NFL rules: “… also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.”


 

Clearly you can see Brady’s arm going forward, then tucking the ball into his body, Woodson delivers the hit, Brady fumbles, and the Raiders go to the 2002 AFC Championship game… until Walt Coleman (with help?) famously ruled otherwise.

Is anyone outside of Patriot-ville capable of lying, and standing by a claim that you weren’t sure Brady had fumbled once he put his left hand back upon the ball and then got hit by Woodson??? If so, I refer you to Oliver Stone, you lying fucking Patsy (pun intended). As Andy reid commented about the tuck rule “when 50 guys at a bar agree its a fumble, its a fumble.”

The Waffle House worthy statement Pereira uttered below was made after last weeks Ravens Chiefs playoff game. Here is Pereira, now a NFL analyst for Fox sports, describing his “now I see the light” moment about the previous stupidity of his defintion of the tuck rule. Pereira’s ridciculously poor spin job at the time of the Tuck travesty, now stands in marked contrast to this statement that actually makes sense. If the QB is not attempting to pass, it’s a fucking fumble. Period. We all knew that, we knew that long before and even after Pereira tried to sell us his spin doctored bullshit…

“2011 Mike Pereira” Discusses the Tuck Rule 

(from this 1/11/11 Tuck Rule post on FoxSports.com)

 

Mike Pereira: Rule 3, Section 2 states “when a team ‘A’ player (passer) is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his hand starts the forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he attempting to tuck it back toward his body.”This was clearly a correct reversal, but is it time to look at this rule? Cassel was not attempting to pass the ball when it came loose. By instinct, referee Mike Carey ruled this a fumble because that’s what it appeared to be.


I think it’s time to change this rule. A pass should only be ruled incomplete if the ball comes loose in the actual act of passing the ball. If it comes loose in the tucking motion, then it should be a fumble.

I would support a rule change, although it took me a long time to get to this point. I’m sure it’s no consolation to the many Raiders fans around the country.

Bullshit, liar.  That Jack Ruby Pereira, flung himself upon the NFL’s “tuck” grenade is widely known… the rationale behind Pereira continuing to freely pour  a verbal salt bath upon our still festering silver & black wounds escapes me?

This sudden ”I’ve found Jesus” moment about the Tuck rule is simply too late now for Pereira, who basically told Raider nation after the Foxboro Fucking that “you stupid Raiders fans and reporters don’t understand the rules. Just because it looks like a fumble, is called a fumble, and fumble is the obvious intent of the rule, doesn’t mean that it is a fumble.” Pereira went on that day to lecture reporters ala Bellicheck about the Vinny testaverde call earlier in the season. The difference there, that tusky little thing again about Vinny not actually touching the ball with this other hand (“the tuck” for those of us now confused) whereas Brady clearly did tuck. You see Brady actually performed a perfect demonstration of that same tuck motion specifically referred to at the end of the Tuck rule as a fumble… “if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.”

Silly things like the facts haven’t dissuaded Pereira from piping down about the open wound that is the tuck rule yet. So, here then courtesy of the freshly picked scab from Mike Pereira is a…



Tuck Rule tribute in pictures, videos, and words…

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The Fuck Tuck Rule “Snowjob” NFL conspiracy in Pictures:
pictorial tribute to an NFL Assraping, and a pre-ordained Replaytriot dynasty

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 The Fuck Tuck Rule “Snowjob” NFL conspiracy Videos:
a Video tribute to an NFL Assraping, and a pre-ordained Replaytriot dynasty

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The Tuck Rule “Zapruder” film: shot from a snowy Foxboro knoll

 
 

Fittingly Phil Collins magical “in the air tonight” was playing in Foxboro Stadium as Walt Coleman stood under the replay hood, deciding the Raiders fate. The magic this time though was not for slaying Bellicheck the Killer pimp, it was “magical mumbo jumbo,” the risky business practices of Coleman (and possibly Tagliabue) altering destiny in the favor of Tom Brady and the Patriots.

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Did  Tagliabue intervene, during the ridiculously long time Coleman took to announce the call?
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Tom “Cruise” Brady Gets Paid with NFL Nookie

 

This is a purposely BS title, and simply an alternate video for Raiders fans hoping to purge the stench of Colemans call. Resist the urge to put Wayfarers on and proclaim “what the fuck, the Raiders got screwed.” Here is happy hooker Rebecca Demornay seducing Tom Cruise on the train in Risky Business… or picture it as the devil seducing Tom Brady to sell his soul for another play Raiders fans… your call.


 

The Fuck Tuck Rule “Snowjob” NFL conspiracy in Words:

a verbal tribute to an NFL Assraping, and a pre-ordained Replaytriot dynasty

 

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The Tuck Rule From ESPN:

Skip Bayless
ESPN, First Take

The following conversation took place on the December 8, 2009 ‘Second Down’ portion of ‘1st and 10′ which is aired daily on the ESPN morning show, First Take.


Skip Bayless:
Okay lemme back him up. I was at that game in the press box I was working in the Bay Area at the time. And you can dismiss this as classic Raider Al Davis paranoia but Al later told me that he had it on good authority that the league commissioner, Paul Tagliabue, actually participated via phone from New York during the replay review which did go on suspiciously long. I don’t remember what the exact — it was like four or five minutes. It was excessively long to the point I was dumbfounded by the call. I think you [Ritchie and the Raiders] got absolutely robbed. And league officials spent the next week lecturing reporters about how the rule book said something that I don’t think it said at all. They tried to rewrite the tuck rule by saying that once you tuck (brings arm forward in a throwing motion to tucking the ball), I’m sorry, once you pump and bring the ball back to the set position you can’t fumble. That’s not what I think that the rule book says.”

JC: Wow!

JR: Yeah.

SB: The rule book says that if you start to throw and you think twice about it and you try to bring the ball back down and you lose control of the ball it’s not a fumble it’s just an incomplete pass. That’s the tuck rule. Tom Brady had finished tucking. He has successfully thought twice, brought the ball back down cause he almost threw it cause he went back to set position. He had finished – and it was a fumble! It was a strip fumble. The game is o-ver. There is no question the game is going to be over if it’s called.

JC: And NFL history rewritten.

SB: You got that right.


The Tuck Rule from Wikipedia:

Tuck Rule, 2002 controversy

Main article: 2001-2002 AFC Divisional Playoff game

See also: NFL playoffs, 2001-02

The tuck rule resulted in a controversial finish to an NFL playoff game on January 19, 2002, between the New England Patriots and the Oakland Raiders.

In the closing moments of the game in a snowy Foxboro Stadium, with New England trailing by three points, New England quarterback Tom Brady dropped back to pass. Charles Woodson came off the strong side corner blitz to knock the ball out of his hands after he had begun a passing motion, pulling his hand down below his shoulder and touching it with his left hand. Raiders’ Middle Linebacker Greg Biekert fell on the loose football. The officials initially called the play a recovered fumble, which would have sealed the victory for the Raiders. But after instant replay, referee Walt Coleman reversed this call, declared the play an incomplete forward pass, and gave possession back to New England. In explaining the reversal to the stadium crowd and the television audience, the referee stated that the ball was moving forward at the time it was dropped. However, instant replays showed that, at the moment Woodson stripped the ball from Brady, Brady had already brought the football back into his non-throwing hand, which would suggest that the “throwing motion” governed by the rule had already been completed and the play should have been ruled a fumble. In later interviews, the referee stated that it was his explanation, not the reversal, that was in error; the ball was moving backwards when it was lost, but the tuck rule applied. In any case, Patriots kicker Adam Vinatieri later tied the game with a dramatic 45-yard field goal, and the Patriots took advantage of the momentum they had seized, defeating the deflated Raiders in overtime on another field goal and eliminating them from the playoffs. Three weeks later, the Patriots won Super Bowl XXXVI.

While the NFL has defended the call, not everybody has agreed. Bruce Allen, who ran the front office for the Raiders at the time of the game, still believes it was a fumble. “The rule itself doesn’t bother me,” he said. “But the way the rule is written, it was a fumble.” Nevertheless, when the NFL’s Competition Committee re-examined the rule after the 2001-2002 season, they made no changes to the rule; Mike Pereira notes that attempts have been made to revise the rule, but such revisions have always proven to be more difficult to enforce than the current rule.

The Tuck Rule From Walt Coleman:

Walt Coleman
NFL referee

“after further review, the QB’s arm was moving forward…”

** Coleman later explained in interviews that it was his explanation, not the reversal, that was in error. Coleman claimed the ball was actualy moving backwards when it was lost, but that the tuck rule still applied.

Random Tuck Rule Commentary:


“not one sane person on the planet saw anything but fumble. It was a complete and utter lie.”
-random Raidergirls.com comment

  

 “if 50 guys at the bar think it’s a fumble, then it’s a fumble. “
-Mike Holmgren

 

“I’ve never seen anybody throw a pass with two hands on the ball”
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Jim Gruden (Jon Gruden’s father)

 

“It’s a fumble.” “And they made up a new rule after that. I mean, come on … a lot of money got changed in that game right there.”
-Chris Hovan


“No matter which side of the officials-against-the-Raiders conspiracy on which you fall, there is no denying that the Patriots dynasty was launched on such a thin thread, and Gruden’s departure from the Raiders — and the team’s ultimate fall back to laughingstock — was set in motion.”

 ”If we had won that game, I might have been selling pretzels in the Black Hole,” Jon Gruden said during an interview at the Bucs’ headquarters this week. “You never know what would have happened.”

“No, we don’t. But we do know what would not have happened. The Patriots would not have won the Super Bowl following the 2001 season. Perhaps Bill Belichick would not have become a genius, perhaps Tom Brady would not have become Joe Montana.”
-Ira Miller, San Francisco Chronicle

 

“…The “Tuck Rule” has been buried, like the Oakland Raiders’ 2001 championship hopes in the Foxborough snow. While the Tuck Rule isn’t used that often, the UFL listed it’s elimination first in their press release. It’s a fun way to needle the NFL because most fans and players fundamentally disagree with the rule.”
-Pro football talk


Coleman Flew, Pereira Knew, Tagliabue too
- Raiders Fan 182



RG 182

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  1. GoPatriots!
    February 8th, 2011 at 14:44 | #1

    Still bitter? Why don’t you get a real image of the play instead of contributing to your own “snow job?” That picture at the top of your page is a doctored picture of Bledsoe, you dolt. Brady never wore a face mask with double bar on the top. That was Bledsoe’s thing. Look at the face, the nose, that’s not Brady.

    It’s a rule and they enforced it correctly. GET OVER IT!

    Funny I don’t hear any of you Raider fans talking about the travesty when Grogan lost a ball against the Raiders in the play-offs many years back and the refs called it a fumble when his arm was clearly going forward (before instant replay). Convenient to forget about that call and hang your hat on this one. What a convenient world you live in. Well, if you don’t consider how terrible your team is I mean. It can’t be convenient to root for a team that has lost more games since that night than any other team in the NFL. Look it up.

    GO PATRIOTS!!!

  2. CrackHead Football
    February 8th, 2011 at 15:07 | #2

    Fucking highway robbery, plain and simple.

    Douchebag teabagging Patriot fans will never admit their entire dynasty hinged on this tainted outcome and bogus sham of a game.

    It is, was, and always will be a fumble.

    Crackhead

  3. GoPatriots!
    February 8th, 2011 at 16:32 | #3

    If you watch the special, the same play happened against the Jets earlier in the year when a strip sack was reversed against the Patriots. And that is the difference between most Raiders fans and Patriots fans. Patriots fans can move on. Raiders fans seem to lack the ability.

  4. admin
    February 10th, 2011 at 23:51 | #4

    @GoPatriots!

    Dear Replaytriot Douche… obviously the latest Nor’easter has frozen your last remaining brain cell. You know, the one cell that wasn’t already squandered beating “little tommy brady” between your legs like it owed you money. Try doing a google image search on “tuck rule vomit” and see how many “doctored” 2-bar Brady facemask images exist. Or watch any video of it… right, there it is, tommy and the 2-bar and the sham of a game.

    Face it, your “dynasty” began with bulllshit, and was further tainted by the proven cheating allegations, namely blatant signal stealing via illegal video taping. If that makes you proud to gargle on Bellichek’s nutsack, then you probably also laugh at the aterisk next to barry Bonds and the number 73.

    In the real world, a fumble is a fumble… in your world “Cheers” and Sam malone are real. Belly up to the bar Cliff Claven, the Hungry Heifer awaits you. RG

  5. CrackHead Football
    February 16th, 2011 at 09:56 | #5

    GoPatriots! :Still bitter? Why don’t you get a real image of the play instead of contributing to your own “snow job?” That picture at the top of your page is a doctored picture of Bledsoe, you dolt. Brady never wore a face mask with double bar on the top. That was Bledsoe’s thing. Look at the face, the nose, that’s not Brady.

    GO PATRIOTS!!!

    Are you on crack, really really good crack? Every picture of Brady has the same mask (2-bar) in every picture. I guess even nfl.com decided to doctor ‘em up eh patsy?

    The Jets patriots call from earlier in the season was not the same at all, different mechanics in the QB motion. Read the tuck rule: “… Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.”

    As it reads, it was clearly a Brady fumble.

    An honest question for you Patriot fans, is there even one of you who will contest that after watching the play live, you were saying “no, it is not a fumble, Brady tucked, were OK” or were you cursing the end of your season?

    Some people thought his arm was going forward, that is understandable in a live bang-bang play, but nobody (’cause I watched the game with lots of people, even Patsy fans familiar with the tuck via the Jets game) in a Brady #12 jersey did anything but cry.

    Why, because as Mike Holmgren put it so eloquently: “when 50 guys at a bar agree it’s a fumble, it’s a fumble.” Period.

    Crackhead Football

  6. IvanBoesky
    April 15th, 2011 at 03:10 | #6

    The NFL knew the Raiders got screwed, and thats why they sent Pereira the patsy up to speak to reporters and dish out his weak-sauce defending of the shitty call, and the shittier interpretation of the tuck rule.

    History arranged, Patriots ordained, Raiders screwed!

    Boesky

  7. TitansGeorge24
    June 21st, 2011 at 11:26 | #7

    The tuck rule snowjob game featured the worst gaem-changing call in the history of NFL football. Period.

    The Raiders got screwed by the NFL, maybe they had it coming with all the lawsuits and such, but the Tuck game was more like WWF wrestling in terms of laughability. Everybody saw fumble, everybody excpet that Walt Coleman guy I guess.

    Does Walt Coleman own a home in Beantown?

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